Like every Texas lawyer licensed since 1988, I’d never known a Texas Supreme Court without Chief Justice Nathan Hecht.

That changed on January 1, 2025.

Todd Smith, Chief Justice Hecht, and Jody Sanders in the Chief’s chambers

A Rare Opportunity

As widely reported in Texas legal news, Chief Justice Hecht retired from the Court on December 31 as its longest-ever serving member. As he neared the end of his tenure, my co-host Jody Sanders and I had the privilege of sitting down with him in his chambers for a rare and candid conversation on the Texas Appellate Law Podcast.

During our visit, Chief Justice Hecht reflected on his remarkable journey, from growing up on a family farm in New Mexico to becoming one of the most influential figures in Texas legal history. He shared personal stories about his unexpected path to the bench, the mentors who shaped his career, and the pivotal moments that defined his leadership on the state’s highest civil court.

Our conversation also highlighted the profound changes he witnessed and led during his time on the Court, from transitioning to a fully digital case management system to mandatory electronic filing to championing access to justice. Chief Justice Hecht also discussed the importance of collaboration among justices, the need for judicial independence, and how maintaining public trust is essential to the courts’ integrity.

A Lasting Judicial Legacy

Looking ahead, Chief Justice Hecht shared his hopes for the future of Texas courts and offered valuable advice to the next generation of lawyers and judges. He emphasized the importance of innovation, a commitment to public service, and an appreciation for the judiciary’s broader role in shaping society.

Chief Justice Hecht’s career is a testament to the rule of law and his independent spirit. I encourage you to listen to the full conversation for insights from one of the most important figures in the history of the Texas judiciary.